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Post by Offering on Jul 8, 2015 13:56:11 GMT -5
For this summer the new Dreamers is surely fun Pellucidar ! Just listening to this for the first time and ... yeuch! This could be a listen-to-only-once slab of cheese. Only the last track, "Jewels of Opar" sounds on first acquaintance to be worth revisiting. I felt like this at first (who really needs another Dreamers album?, etc) but I've found myself enjoying it about four times already. Yes it treads the same steps as all their previous work, but it is really enjoyable! No need for any more Dreamers music though, in my opinion. Or Masada music, now we're talking about it.
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Post by rodrigo on Sept 17, 2015 15:36:13 GMT -5
Hello, any reactions to Zorn's latest output? The second Simulacrum cd and Forro Zinho are on its way. Anyone catching the Bagatelles concerts care to comment?? In other news, pretty excited about the just announced future Daniel Zamir cd, I haven't catched up with his Israeli cds and I'm anxious to hear what his playing now. Also, it looks like Tzadik releases are focusing on Archival and Spectrum.. I heard the Composers cds wouldn't go on, but it seems everything else is on hold for the moment. In the past, Zamir's would've been a Radical jewish music cd..
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Post by sarahv on Sept 17, 2015 16:17:22 GMT -5
The Bagatelles have been really excellent. Kind of similar to Book of Angels in concept, in that he is giving them a skeleton to work with and then picking different bands to arrange and perform an hour's worth of music apiece. (But the music is not at all Masada-esque, to my ear.) I've seen six of them and he conducted one of them (Asmodeus) but not the other five. Not sure why he conducts some bands and not others...
Haven't gotten the 2nd Simulacrum CD but I'm very curious to hear some reviews on it. I listened to the 30 second samples on Amazon and couldn't quite make up my mind. I have tix to see them in October, though...
I like the Forro Zinho CD quite a bit, it's light (for Zorn) but it's good fun.
I ended up really enjoying the Song Project live, in spite of not loving the vocals on some of them I think the band gave some outstanding performances that night. Pellucidar grew on me a bit but is still probably my least favorite Dreamers CD. Looking forward to maybe hearing some of it live in November, though - live is always better with musicians like these...
In related news: I heard they are planning a box set for the Book of Beriah releases.
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Post by rodrigo on Sept 18, 2015 5:10:10 GMT -5
!!! Box set=10 cds or more=expeeeensive=cool!!
I read about Sofia Rey, Secret Chiefs & Cleric recording Book of Beriah.. so it makes sense if all of them are recording now.
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Post by Sordel on Sept 28, 2015 1:48:52 GMT -5
Not sure why he conducts some bands and not others... [...] In related news: I heard they are planning a box set for the Book of Beriah releases. I've got a feeling that if he could conduct every band he would but not every band wants to or is able to be conducted by him. Also, the configurations that arrange their own work in any depth probably wouldn't leave him the room he likes for controlling the improvisation. I'm just guessing though. A Beriah Box could probably persuade me to break my ceiling on boxed set expenditure (recently reset by the Grateful Dead 30 Trips set) but I'm surprised that it would make any economic sense unless individual discs were also separately available. I wonder if the sales data on the Book Of Angels is indicating that people get tired of these very long-running release programmes.
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Post by rodrigo on Sept 28, 2015 10:59:15 GMT -5
I sometimes wonder if any Zorn release makes any economic sense at all.. Are there really so many people out there buying his cds on a monthly basis?? So maybe a boxset makes sense after all, as far as we diehard fans are going to spend 20 or 200..
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Post by stefanodoug on Sept 29, 2015 14:05:30 GMT -5
I sometimes wonder if any Zorn release makes any economic sense at all.. Are there really so many people out there buying his cds on a monthly basis?? So maybe a boxset makes sense after all, as far as we diehard fans are going to spend 20 or 200.. Just some weeks ago I placed an order at DMG after more than a year. And I must admit that I sometimes download the albums in advance and then I buy what I like. The days when I spent all my pocket money in records (that I hadn't heard before) have long gone, shame on me. The main problem is that internet made available are too many nice things at the same time, but on the other hand there are the people who are trying to make a living out of those records. Anyways, a Masada Book III boxset is surely welcome for those like me who don't have a chance to see these bands live (yet; perhaps Zorn will launch a Beriah Marathon tour to accompany the release of the boxset, who knows?) and to put some cool artwork on the shelves also That said, it won't be utopian to envision the three Masada books released in three separate installments by Tzadik in some not distant future. In order to check whether the 613 tunes were doubled or not, though I think it's an easy guess to make since Zorn must have repeated himself for sure
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Post by Sordel on Nov 7, 2015 8:28:03 GMT -5
I just got the James Moore Plays The Book Of Heads DVD/CD combo. The film is very interesting ... I watched through it a couple of times and am now listening to the audio version, which is an intriguingly different experience: I guess one's eyes get in the way of one's ears!
Looking forward to Cerebus before the end of the year, but I've got a feeling that 2016 could be a major one for releases since he has Beriah and Bagatelles to think about, plus (hopefully) another Olympiad volume. 2015 is in retrospect feeling like "anno Simulacrum", and while I like the band I don't see it as setting the standard for Zorn releases.
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Post by bouc on Nov 10, 2015 22:38:46 GMT -5
As far as I know, John Zorn said that Bagatelles are not to be recorded... Wait and see. Secret Chiefs 3 started recording a Masada Book 3 in july. Sofia rei was supposed to work on something related to the Masada Book 3 too. The Holy Visions and Madrigals have been recorded. A cello quartet has been recorded too. The Nova Express Quartet, with Cyro Baptista, recorded on november 2. A fourth Simulacrum album has been recorded on november 10, with Kenny Wollesen on vibes. According to the interview in Burning Ambulance, simulacrum could record seven albums, and we know they can do three a year ;-) And Garth Knox was supposed to work on a Book of Angels. So 2016 should be another good year !
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Post by rodrigo on Nov 11, 2015 13:52:53 GMT -5
Cleric also recorded Book 3 I think.. A pity not having a series of cds of the Bagatelles. Cool to see some Bagatelles marathons scheduled for November 2016 in Europe.. Sarajevo and Milan so far.
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Post by bouc on Nov 11, 2015 21:31:44 GMT -5
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Post by stefanodoug on Nov 13, 2015 0:52:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I will try to be in Milan in a year then... 11am concert as usual since November 6 falls on a Sunday
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Post by Sordel on Dec 6, 2015 6:43:29 GMT -5
As far as I know, John Zorn said that Bagatelles are not to be recorded... Wait and see. Secret Chiefs 3 started recording a Masada Book 3 in july. Sofia rei was supposed to work on something related to the Masada Book 3 too. The Holy Visions and Madrigals have been recorded. A cello quartet has been recorded too. The Nova Express Quartet, with Cyro Baptista, recorded on november 2. A fourth Simulacrum album has been recorded on november 10, with Kenny Wollesen on vibes. According to the interview in Burning Ambulance, simulacrum could record seven albums, and we know they can do three a year ;-) And Garth Knox was supposed to work on a Book of Angels. So 2016 should be another good year ! Thanks for the news (well, all the news other than the fact that the Bagatelles are not to be recorded! ). I see that the Madrigals have already been announced, along with volume 4 of the organ series. It's odd that despite the fact that Zorn releases so much he never quite slakes my thirst for new product. Tzadik trailed that volume XXV might be the last Filmworks and it's beginning to look that way: I'm sorry to see it go, and in a way surprised by my own disappointment. I guess that with volume 3 volumes in preparation we must be pretty close to the end of the Book Of Angels as well: ten years of releases that must have required a considerable degree of coordination. By rights, though, I think we're still awaiting something like forty of the Masada heads from that set? That suggests about four discs still to come and the satisfyingly round number of thirty volumes?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 14:09:36 GMT -5
I brought Cartoon S/M little over a month ago and have been enjoying the hell out of it. I'm a classical fanatic anyway (as my name tells you I'm also a huge Xenakis fan) I already knew all the pieces from other releases (like Angelus Novus or the String Quartets) but having them all together gives it a fresh, new perspective. But seriously though, what Zorn fan wouldn't love For your eyes only or Cat 'O nine Tails
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Post by stefanodoug on Jan 24, 2017 14:52:02 GMT -5
Uhm, January has Book of Angels vol 30, the penultimate installment of the series. February and March releases feature only Zorn stuff and it looks like various people are after Masada Book III recordings (upcoming Book Beriah boxset?). Seems like this is going to be a Zorn year in terms of Tzadik recordings; perhaps no surprise as there are usually some 10 to 15 Zorn related releases on every year's Tzadik catalogue, but I fear like non Zorn discs are selling less and less as time goes by. It's hard to keep the pace also. Speaking of non Zorn stuff, I think I will soon buy Kramer's Brill Building whose twisted covers I have been enjoying for some time already.
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